Once again, tomorrow is the date
for one of my favorite debates. Who
should be in the Hall of Fame?
First, I'm going to go through my
"ballot" (remember, you can only vote for 10). Second, I'm going to give a simple yes or no
for whether each guy on the ballot should be in.
My ballot (alphabetical order):
Vladimir Guerrero
The
best bad ball hitter I've ever seen (though I hear Yogi Berra was pretty
good). Tons of power, plenty of speed
(though the Montreal turf destroyed his knees), a cannon of an arm. The only knock was he was pretty bad with the
glove, but who cares? Has to get in his
second year.
Trevor Hoffman
Those
who say "he wasn't Mariano" are stupid and have a ridiculously high
bar for success. He was the second best
closer of his time. Plus, there's no beating
him entering to Hells Bells (they basically invented the closer walkup music). The only knock I've seen against him was his
postseason record. I would counter the
postseason should only help your chances, not hurt them. I'm not joking when I say I am waiting for my
return trip to Cooperstown until after he is in.
Chipper Jones
This
is a reluctant vote to show I am not biased.
I hated Chipper. First, because
he was a rival (in my mind at least) to Caminiti. Second, because the Astros could never get
past those annoying Braves. But, I can't
argue with his stats.
Jeff Kent
Added
to my ballot this year because there's more room. One of the greatest offensive second basemen
of all time. He had a decent glove but
was apparently not a great teammate.
Edgar Martinez
The
greatest designated hitter of all time (sorry Papi), only injuries and a late
start kept him from 3000 hits.
Fred McGriff
The
second greatest casualty (after the Expos) of the 1994 strike, because he fell
7 home runs short of 500. It's crazy he
doesn't get more consideration, especially since people now want to laud clean
power hitters from the 90s.
Curt Schilling
Perhaps
the most dominant postseason starter in the modern era, it was also
unquestioned that when he paired with Randy Johnson in Arizona they were the
best 1-2 punch of their time. Anybody
who doesn't vote for him because of his post-career outspokenness is an idiot.
Jim Thome
Do
you realize he hit 612 home runs? In any
other era, that number would be bonkers.
He also had a lifetime .956 OPS, way better than Sheffield or Sosa
(fourth best on the ballot, behind Bonds, Ramirez, and Walker).
Billy Wagner
Closers
are supposed to be dominant. Nobody,
except maybe Mariano, has been more dominant.
Only his lack of innings is keep his consideration down.
Larry Walker
As
someone else said, if you vote for Vladimir you have to vote for Larry. They were basically the same person, but
Larry was less flashy (and he played in Colorado). He also had one of the strongest arms in
right field you will ever see.
So there's my 10, and honestly
there's only one other that I would consider:
Barry Bonds - blatant roid user,
no
Chris Carpenter - no
Roger Clemens - same boat as
Bonds
Johnny Damon - no
Livan Hernandez - no
Orlando Hudson - no
Aubrey Huff - no
Jason Isringhausen - no
Andruw Jones - no, an annoying
showoff in the field, he coasted defensively on reputation and offensively on a
couple of good seasons, his drop off was dramatic
Carlos Lee - HA! no
Brad Lidge - no
Hideki Matsui - no
Kevin Millwood - no
Jamie Moyer - no
Mike Mussina - Yes - 270 wins and
a 123 career ERA+ pitching entire career in AL East (same as Juan Marichal,
better than Bob Feller, Eddie Plank, Don Drysdale, Warren Spahn, etc.)
Manny Ramirez - no - twice tested
positive
Scott Rolen - no, though he was
underrated
Johan Santana - no because of
injuries, he still pitched the most impressive game I've seen in person (and
I've seen a no hitter)
Gary Sheffield - based on
numbers, yes, but no
Sammy Sosa - no, see Bonds
Omar Vizquel - no and I don't
understand why there's even a debate.
Sure, he was flashy with the glove (or no glove), but he was terrible
offensively and only put up big counting numbers due to longevity
Kerry Wood - no
Carlos Zambrano - heck no (I
seriously hated this guy)
Pretty good breakdown. Agree with everything but Mussina.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything but Walker and am on the fence with Mussina. He reminds me of a mix of the old borderline guys who got in on longevity like Niekro and Sutton and then Morris who is the new borderline and has wins because of the team he played for. Orioles scored a lot and were a force when he played (hence the post season numbers he has). Just because you were up there with the best of your time doesn't make you a HOFer. You weren't the best you were second tier which is where Dale Murphy and yes Trammel fall. Larry Walker fits there too. Yes very good but outside of Colorado he was average to below average and not dominant like Vladimir who was always in MVP talks and took teams to the playoffs because he made them better like the Angels and Rangers. And he was so much better with injuries shortening his career. Edgar is borderline. For someone who did nothing but hit, where's 3000 or 500? So he started late so what? Yes he was good and I'm ok if he goes in but he'll be right with Rice, Tony Perez and Orlando Cepeda.
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